tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post1430902995049276039..comments2023-10-29T06:50:22.166-04:00Comments on Love in the Time of Chasmosaurs: Vintage Dinosaur Art: Life Through The AgesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-25361405188524074962016-03-22T17:42:51.448-04:002016-03-22T17:42:51.448-04:00Oops. Somehow I missed the post by JLewis on Decem...Oops. Somehow I missed the post by JLewis on December 17, 2015, at 6:39 PM -- I didn't even see it when I posted the next day (maybe it was in moderation). At any rate, the post by JLewis on December 17, 2015, seem to confirm that all the interior illustrations under discussion were by Frederick E. Seyfarth (specifically including the pteranodons and hesperornids). I guess the similarity in the Probst pteranodon illustration I saw is due to one artist using the other's work as a model (probably Probst relying upon Seyfarth is my guess).Stevo Darklyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619713705165612080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-28231561352207028212016-02-08T20:24:25.630-05:002016-02-08T20:24:25.630-05:00OK. I believe the artist behind SOME of these illu...OK. I believe the artist behind SOME of these illustrations -- specifically, the two Pteranodons in flight, and I think the family of Hesperornids -- was Pierre Probst. He did some cartoony-type illustrations, but he also illustrated some nature books in a more realistic style.<br /><br />I found my book called "The World of Animals" published in the 1960s by the Whitman World Library. It was illustrated by Probst. It contains an illustration of a flying Pteranodon that is almost identical to one of the flying Pteranodons depicted above. The Hesperornids also appear to be in his "natural history" style.<br /><br />However, I do NOT think that Probst did any of the other illustrations shown. Those are the work of someone else, I think. <br /><br />Caveat: It is also possible that the Pteranodon's resemblance to Probst's work could be due to one illustrator "borrowing" from the other.Stevo Darklyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619713705165612080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-86971350867208226122016-01-26T21:47:54.347-05:002016-01-26T21:47:54.347-05:00The Australian animals weren't likely to be us...The Australian animals weren't likely to be used in a US or UK popular juvenile book in that time period, anyway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11333815581704070120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-62538970174628205602016-01-26T21:44:49.396-05:002016-01-26T21:44:49.396-05:00Oh, I realize that the FORMAL names aren't plu...Oh, I realize that the FORMAL names aren't pluralized: you don't refer to "Tyrannosauri" or "Smilodons populators" or such. It's when the scientific name becomes the popular name that it becomes pertinent. We formally say "Tylosaurus proriger", no matter how many specimens you have, but when referring to the animals themselves, you have one "megatherium", two "megatheria". At least that's how I was taught in my taxonomy classes back in the Renaissance by Dr. Linne. (I joke, it wasn't THAT long ago, but it sure seems as if it was! Actually, it was back in the '70s, just as the Dinosaur Renaissance was taking hold. Some of my profs were still skeptical of plate tectonics.)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11333815581704070120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-73802143507368209202016-01-26T16:40:52.185-05:002016-01-26T16:40:52.185-05:00I have searched for these illustrations for years....I have searched for these illustrations for years. I remember them from the early 60's. I thought they were in a book on the natural history of North America. Does that ring any bells?Bill Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11897665614867108998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-28277863520194895212016-01-05T19:08:36.564-05:002016-01-05T19:08:36.564-05:00They look more like slender lorises than tarsiers ...They look more like slender lorises than tarsiers to me.Mike Keeseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00147156174467903264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-53166477359048731672016-01-05T19:07:03.485-05:002016-01-05T19:07:03.485-05:00Properly it's Uintatherium for any number. You...Properly it's <i>Uintatherium</i> for any number. You don't pluralize formal taxonomic names.Mike Keeseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00147156174467903264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-1727003761960153842015-12-31T19:17:12.615-05:002015-12-31T19:17:12.615-05:00The way that those 'tarsiers' are hunched ...The way that those 'tarsiers' are hunched down is reminding me of some Sci-Fi story I read ages ago...<br /><br />I suspect that the 'wolf-thing' is probably meant to be Canis dirus, the Dire Wolf. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11333815581704070120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-69053520758589942692015-12-31T19:08:41.742-05:002015-12-31T19:08:41.742-05:00Probably Diatryma. Phorusrhacos was always shown t...Probably Diatryma. Phorusrhacos was always shown to be more slender with a more raptor-like beak, rather than this heavy crushing chopper. (BTW, I know that I've seen a Diatryma with similar coloring to this cover in another source.)<br /><br />Notice that the Hesperornis picture could easily have been a loon from a book on birds.<br /><br />Some of the dinosaur pictures were used in sticker albums for years after.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11333815581704070120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-51088799882120709092015-12-31T19:02:07.199-05:002015-12-31T19:02:07.199-05:00Also known as Deinoceros. Eobasileus is sometimes ...Also known as Deinoceros. Eobasileus is sometimes referred as a synonym, but current thinking appears that they are different enough to be considered separate genera. (BTW: properly, it's one "Uintatherium", 2 or more "Uintatheria"- but we just avoid the whole arguement by using "uintathere, uintatheres".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11333815581704070120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-57219559111294829462015-12-30T10:54:10.927-05:002015-12-30T10:54:10.927-05:00no, that must have been a typo, sorry, it was Pter...no, that must have been a typo, sorry, it was PterosauriaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05956978842896510992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-37960745515322301222015-12-29T11:23:35.079-05:002015-12-29T11:23:35.079-05:00There's an e-mail address listed at the top of...There's an e-mail address listed at the top of the page, but to be honest, you are probably better off leaving a comment. And thanks for the info! Yes, quite an amusing coincidence, although do they actually use 'Pterosauris'?Marc Vincenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894846069567096349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-56156479711569054002015-12-23T20:23:33.132-05:002015-12-23T20:23:33.132-05:00I got to let you guys know (I have no idea where e...I got to let you guys know (I have no idea where else to do so, since you guys have no contact information) there is a song in the OST of Jurassic World entitled Love in the Time of Pterosauris. I know it is a coincidence but a pretty funny one, no?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05956978842896510992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-40466357637925113022015-12-19T01:14:37.666-05:002015-12-19T01:14:37.666-05:00You asked for Hesperornis babies? Jason Brougham d...You asked for Hesperornis babies? Jason Brougham delivers! (His scene is a little more... er, violent, though.) He makes no mention of this post, but the timing seems almost too good to be true.<br />http://jasonbrougham.com/2015/12/19/tyrannosaurus-rex/Andrew Raymond Stückhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12080621275951453768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-10936104205499504562015-12-18T23:58:02.776-05:002015-12-18T23:58:02.776-05:00Hopefully, some time this weekend, I may be able t...Hopefully, some time this weekend, I may be able to find the animal book that I am thinking of.<br /><br />The two-page spread it has on dinosaurs is also interesting in its own right. It features a rather gorgeous if definitely old-school colorful watercolor landscape densely populated with an anachronistic assembly of dinosaurs. This includes a Brontosaurus in a small but very deep pond (up to its chest), and a Tyrannosaurus with a nicely detailed if completely inaccurate lizardlike head, surveying his domain. Inserted in the corner of one page are the figures of a boy and girl, looking in astonishment at the Tyrannosaurus (who is towering over them but fortunately is completely oblivious to their presence; maybe he just ate).<br />Stevo Darklyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619713705165612080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-9908180641206467072015-12-18T00:02:49.722-05:002015-12-18T00:02:49.722-05:00"and Bob Bakker's face replacing that of ..."and Bob Bakker's face replacing that of Santa Claus so slowly, no one even noticed."<br /><br />Better yet, Bakker's the real-life version of Santa Christ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSLVgP79iaA<br /><br />"Also, how often do we get to see Hesperornis babies? I wanna see more!"<br /><br />Don't forget about Kish: http://oceansofkansas.com/Hesperornis/kish-01.jpg<br /><br />"and some, er, oddities."<br /><br />Probably made for Carnivora Forum.raptor_044https://www.blogger.com/profile/10538231485096397412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-56484146725797529772015-12-17T18:39:45.845-05:002015-12-17T18:39:45.845-05:00You may be right. However both my copies of LIFE T...You may be right. However both my copies of LIFE THROUGH THE AGES and ANIMALS OF YESTERDAY (including the hesperornids and the pterosaurs) state "illustrations by Frederick E. Seyfarth" and nobody else. You think he might have had an underpaid apprentice? Anything is possible. <br /><br />ACTUALLY... it is quite possible that the 1952-53 editions have additional paintings that were not done for the 1941-42 books and may differ just a little bit. Now my curiosity is up.<br /><br />A little more on this artist...<br /><br />He also painted animals for other books like ANIMALS AROUND THE YEAR (1947, another paperback Row, Peterson & Co.) which were incorporated into 1952's larger THE GOLDEN TREASURY OF NATURAL HISTORY. I am guessing that one publisher took over the other and gained all of the images. All of these books credit Bertha Morris Parker as a consultant.<br /><br />I have boxes of dino books in storage stretching from the 1930s through '90s. Yet this is the first time I have been able to successfully leave a response on this wonderful site (after following it on and off for a few years). Lots of fond memories get joggled here. Also I have quite a few antiques that I just know Marc Vincent and others here would have a FIELD day with. Some books are even too bizarre for words, like James Fisher's 1954 geography book that includes dinos painted either by "Kempster" or "Evans" called THE WONDERFUL WORLD: THE ADVENTURE OF THE EARTH WE LIVE ON... boasting a Trachodon with human hands.JLewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06420867357790869076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-26157890274296473622015-12-17T17:46:17.165-05:002015-12-17T17:46:17.165-05:00Oops. I missed something in JLewis' comment. Y...Oops. I missed something in JLewis' comment. Yes, I think Frederick E. Seyfarth did the interior dinosaur illustrations, and probably the mammals, and the Eryops as well. But I suspect a different artist did the hesperornids and the pterosaurs.Stevo Darklyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619713705165612080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-3652567605667430452015-12-17T17:41:25.690-05:002015-12-17T17:41:25.690-05:00Hold the phone -- I HAVE SEEN THOSE PTEROSAURS (Pt...Hold the phone -- I HAVE SEEN THOSE PTEROSAURS (Pteranodons) BEFORE! Same style, similar poses, perhaps the very same illustration, reused. I am 99.9999999999% certain it was by the same artist, unless one artist was very faithful at copying the other.<br /><br />And where did I see this image before? When I was a little kid (early 1960s) I had a children's book about animals, in an extra-large format, glossy hardback cover, with wondrous illustrations throughout --watercolors very like some of the interior illustrations above. My animal book included a couple pages devoted to dinosaurs and another two-age spread occupied by Archaeopteryx (a rather Burianesque life reconstruction) as well as a fossil Archaeopteryx plus these very same pteranodons. The illustrations throughout the book.<br /><br />Alas, I cannot remember the title of this animal book of mine. However, I still own it! Except I don't exactly know where it is. I may have to search for it this weekend. And if I find it, I just may be able to reveal who was the illustrator of at least some of the interior art featured above. Fingers crossed!<br /><br />I will add that I suspect the same artist did both the pteranodons and the Heperornis family below them, but a different artist did both the dinosaurs and the prehistoric mammals.<br /><br />Hopefully I will learn more in a few days.Stevo Darklyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17619713705165612080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-73397148662961931412015-12-17T17:06:58.485-05:002015-12-17T17:06:58.485-05:00Sorry David Orr... I didn't read ALL of the co...Sorry David Orr... I didn't read ALL of the comments carefully ahead of time. Yeah... it seems that the Golden Book Encyclopedias of the '50s made ample use of these images as well. During the Eisenhower Era, they seemed to be everywhere.JLewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06420867357790869076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-12649864664037586802015-12-17T16:50:00.027-05:002015-12-17T16:50:00.027-05:00I have an older version of this book in paperback ...I have an older version of this book in paperback and with a completely different cover also titled LIFE THROUGH THE AGES and published by Row, Peterson & Company as a third edition in 1952. It was initially published a decade earlier... in 1942. Frederick E. Seyfarth painted these images before that date (I assume). A companion book called ANIMALS OF YESTERDAY (which you will also enjoy for its retro charm) was published in 1941 and revised four times (mine being the '53 edition). <br /><br />Sooo... the Brits finally got this Yankee export after Kennedy entered the White House... and after 20 years? Talk about sending you all of our leftovers for dino books! All joking aside, I loved these images. The ANIMALS OF YESTERDAY uses models of the Milwaukee Public Museum for their paintings as well. The Allosaurus "the leaping lizard" is one creepy character, being a loose mock-up of the earlier Sexy Rexy "types", which... in turn... were patterned after the famous Sinclair statues of Chicago's '33 World Fair. Lots of scales and beady eyes.<br />JLewishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06420867357790869076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-58169399560185280992015-12-17T15:10:02.677-05:002015-12-17T15:10:02.677-05:00Interesting idea and being an Aussie I'd love ...Interesting idea and being an Aussie I'd love it to be true.But at the time Genyornis was believed to be related to the emus and portrayed accordingly,Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12800504889759879080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-18748934591420823672015-12-17T09:29:29.416-05:002015-12-17T09:29:29.416-05:00Couldn't the cover creature be the marsupial l...Couldn't the cover creature be the marsupial lion Thylacoleo, which had sorta-thumbs? They lived alongside giant birds like Genyornis, and in an illustration from the 60s I wouldn't be surprised to see it drawn more cat-like than it really was.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14699186635862651835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-22765265870791886862015-12-17T09:26:38.595-05:002015-12-17T09:26:38.595-05:00I knew I recognised them from some old book or oth...I knew I recognised them from some old book or other!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14699186635862651835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9107291904794625632.post-77498394078157395452015-12-17T09:14:31.162-05:002015-12-17T09:14:31.162-05:00The mesozoic illustrations are interesting, the pt...The mesozoic illustrations are interesting, the pterosaurs in particular. The artists made them look like actual animals and not shrieking reptilian monstrosities. I love that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com